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I'm going to respectfully disagree with you on this one -- not necessarily because of actual grammar issues -- for me it's the "perceived" grammar issues.
One reason for not going with "transgendered" is because doesn't sound like the rest of the LGBT terms. No one is gayed, lesbianed, or bisexualed, so transgendered seems out of place. Granted, this isn't a very significant reason, but the "-ed" bugs me in the LGB & T context. The other reason is because "transgendered" sounds like the past tense of "transgender." In a world of ex-gay and ex-transsexual/ex-transgender people (i.e. Jerry Leach, Sy Rogers, and Danny Blackwell), I don't like the sound of a "past tense" sounding term to help feed their idea that the state of being transgender is a choice.
thank you for your very well written blog post!
in response to the first comment: um, to say that "no one is gayed, lesbianed, or bisexualed" and that that is why we should be using the ridiculously grammatically incorrect term "transgender" is just plain ignorant. "gay," "lesbian," and "bisexual" are already adjectives--not nouns. "gender," i think everyone can agree, is a NOUN. as such, if you want to make it into an adjective (like the noun "Lesbos"), you have to do something to it--in this case, add an "-ed," and in the case of "Lesbos," take off the end and add an "-ian." it's really very basic. i think that discrimination against trans people is horrible, but perverting the rules of the English language is not going to help the cause; it's just going to make the person who does it sound badly uneducated and ignorant. just because language evolves in illogical directions doesn't mean we have to give up just yet!
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2010-02-23 19:02
Another bold move forward for the adjectival community, Pauline!
But for me, the simplicity of "transgender" trumps. I just don't like the look of the word: "transgendered". Sounds like something created by a mad scientist, like genetically modified foods. On the meaning front, I'm not sure how many transgender people would agree that they have "transgendered" themselves. You are my right-hand woman, Pauline, when it comes to fatigue arguments and exhaust discussions. A culture person extraordinaire, and in my age bracket too! But I do prefer "transgender" for its syllable thriftiness.
I don't follow the logic of -ed meaning X or not anymore. To me it's more like if you were baptisED that doesn't mean you are no longer Christian or if you were circumcisED you now suddenly have foreskin because the -ed made it past tense.
True, -ed indictes the past tense which means it has occurred- not that it is no longer valid.
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2007-04-10 20:11
"One reason for not going with "transgendered" is because doesn't sound like the rest of the LGBT terms. No one is gayed, lesbianed, or bisexualed, so transgendered seems out of place."
the rest of the lgbt spectrum has to do with who they sleep with, not who they are. fact is, trans people are different than the glb people. trans is not a sexual orientation, where lgb descriptors are. and the reality is, transgendered people are out of place, even within the lgb community. that said, i'll typically say that i'm "trans". that eliminates the whole "ed" argument.
FINALLY! Someone who agrees with me on this and has the education to back it up. I'm better at English than the average american, but I didn't know all of the rules to back up my claim of "saying 'i'm transgender' just sounds wrong!" thanks for this article, i'll be sure to point anyone who insists on being transgender.
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2009-11-02 21:49
I agree wholeheartedly with the author's points.Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou!!!!!
In reply to the first two comments, the proiblem lies not in the "ed" but in the "transgender." Actually, "transgendered" (or "transgender") sounds a lot like "bisexual." That's why people who are bi describe themselves as ... that's right, "bi." So if you don't want to sound so stuffy, just say "trans."
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2009-11-03 00:10
I don't agree. Just because you can add 'ed' onto a verb to make it an adjective, doesn't mean you can add 'ed' onto an adjective to make it a verb. That logic makes no sense.
I also disagree that being transgender is not something done to you, it is not an action to take or be taken. It is a descriptive state. Regarding your example of "...a child is 'gendered.'" A child is gendered? I've never heard that. What does it mean? A child has a gender. Gender is a descriptive state of being, but it is not an action. I will agree that "transgendered" is entering our vernacular as a neologism, but that doesn't mean it is now the appropriate term. When we come out as transgender, we do not "re-gender". We can choose to transition to a new gender role, but our gender never changes. Further, many never transition, therefore they do not "re-gender" either. It just bugs me because being transgender is what I am, not what I do.
Transgender is a noun, like man and woman. We would not say that someone is manned or womanned. Likewise, we would not say that someone is maled or femaled. A person may be male, female, intesex, transgender, and so forth.
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2010-06-23 16:53
Well, in accordance with both the National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association (NLGJA) and the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), "transgender" is an adjective.
GLAAD goes further in its grammatical definitions of the term, indicating on page 10 of its GLAAD Media Reference Guide that "transgendered" is "problematic". (- http://www.glaad.org/document.doc?id=99 -) Because I try to stay within journalism standards, I tend to stick to what the styleguides tell me is the standardize way to use terminology -- that is, for example, why I personally use "LGBT" instead of "GLBT." |
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